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	<title>Comments on: The Truth About The Audi R8 Blackbird And It&#8217;s Mystery Box: The Infrasonic Wave Pulse Generator</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did no one watch the Mythbusters episode where they found the &lt; 20 Hz frequencies didn&#039;t do shit?  Adam and Jamie were standing directly in front of TOWER CONCERT SPEAKERS.  Some tiny ass speaker mounted to the grille of a car isn&#039;t going to overpower that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did no one watch the Mythbusters episode where they found the &lt; 20 Hz frequencies didn&#039;t do shit?  Adam and Jamie were standing directly in front of TOWER CONCERT SPEAKERS.  Some tiny ass speaker mounted to the grille of a car isn&#039;t going to overpower that.</p>
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		<title>By: Plausible Denial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plausible Denial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let&#039;s look at the facts. This gadget does not have a speaker. Infrasound generator = out. 7KW?? Are you KIDDING me? Nothing uses that kind of electricity except maybe a time-traveling Delorean. Anything requiring that sort of juice would have to haul a trailer along with it containing the power cell and generator. 7KW is enough to power a large rock concert. The device obviously does SOMETHING, but what?

Aside from cause millions of car geeks (like me) to waste many hours of valuable time pouring over forum threads like this one, what else does it do? Nobody knows for sure, but here is my theory: Looks to me like a powerful IR light. This makes sense as the IR camera mounted beside it requires an IR source. Yes, it&#039;s big and clunky, but this is the most plausible answer. Driving fast at night is scary. Seriously scary. And dangerous. And yes, I&#039;ve done it. Anything you can use to give you advance warning of animals in the road (etc.) from a distance is good. At speed, a standard night-vision system (GM&#039;s for example) is not must good. It does not see far enough. This looks to me like some sort of one-of-a-kind IR system. Nothing else front-mounted makes sense. I have to wonder though why is it so aerodynamically inefficient? It almost looks like it has a housing which has been removed. It would be easily damaged if not protected...

My $0.02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let&#8217;s look at the facts. This gadget does not have a speaker. Infrasound generator = out. 7KW?? Are you KIDDING me? Nothing uses that kind of electricity except maybe a time-traveling Delorean. Anything requiring that sort of juice would have to haul a trailer along with it containing the power cell and generator. 7KW is enough to power a large rock concert. The device obviously does SOMETHING, but what?</p>
<p>Aside from cause millions of car geeks (like me) to waste many hours of valuable time pouring over forum threads like this one, what else does it do? Nobody knows for sure, but here is my theory: Looks to me like a powerful IR light. This makes sense as the IR camera mounted beside it requires an IR source. Yes, it&#8217;s big and clunky, but this is the most plausible answer. Driving fast at night is scary. Seriously scary. And dangerous. And yes, I&#8217;ve done it. Anything you can use to give you advance warning of animals in the road (etc.) from a distance is good. At speed, a standard night-vision system (GM&#8217;s for example) is not must good. It does not see far enough. This looks to me like some sort of one-of-a-kind IR system. Nothing else front-mounted makes sense. I have to wonder though why is it so aerodynamically inefficient? It almost looks like it has a housing which has been removed. It would be easily damaged if not protected&#8230;</p>
<p>My $0.02.</p>
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		<title>By: Derp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its bull shit. 

You don&#039;t need some fancy ass device to generate sound wave, which is what infrasound waves are, its just compressions and rarefactions in the air.

If i wanted to i could pull up a signal generator in protools and select any signal between 1-20hz and its not going to do anything, rarefactions and compressions that far apart wont do shit. 

Do it bring up a frequency generator, crank the velocity of the wave and see what happens, because thats creating infrasonic waves. nothing fancy here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its bull shit. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need some fancy ass device to generate sound wave, which is what infrasound waves are, its just compressions and rarefactions in the air.</p>
<p>If i wanted to i could pull up a signal generator in protools and select any signal between 1-20hz and its not going to do anything, rarefactions and compressions that far apart wont do shit. </p>
<p>Do it bring up a frequency generator, crank the velocity of the wave and see what happens, because thats creating infrasonic waves. nothing fancy here.</p>
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		<title>By: donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don : Louisiana 
Infrasound devices or weapon does exist. Organized Stalking Groups protected by Rogue Police harass victims every day nationwide with it. It is not very pleasant to feel, as for the last five years, I have been harassed by one. It can be mounted in a vehicle or placed in a home and is very directional aimed. I am now running ads in the news paper to expose this stalking. They arrested a man the same day. They use 200 vehicles around the victim while driving and use this device on him so it is very hard to spot the correct vehicle carrying the device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don : Louisiana<br />
Infrasound devices or weapon does exist. Organized Stalking Groups protected by Rogue Police harass victims every day nationwide with it. It is not very pleasant to feel, as for the last five years, I have been harassed by one. It can be mounted in a vehicle or placed in a home and is very directional aimed. I am now running ads in the news paper to expose this stalking. They arrested a man the same day. They use 200 vehicles around the victim while driving and use this device on him so it is very hard to spot the correct vehicle carrying the device.</p>
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		<title>By: MrAngry</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrAngry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually a juicer... he supposedly really likes fruit.</description>
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		<title>By: Junk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its obviously a ir camera/device of some sorts... Can we figure out how it works now!</description>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 19:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a flux capacitor.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An acoustic weapons system like a LRAD requires a speaker. That is not a speaker, it is  either a radar camera or a IR camera. Also, the driver would be incredibly stupid to use a LRAD type of system on the road in the first place. The LRAD irritates people enough to cause them to fall down, drop anything they are holding, and have temporary vision problems. On the road, that could result in an accident, as you cannot rely on the other drivers to pull over. The driver could end up letting go of the wheel. The fact that the system is not a speaker also debunks the theory of it being a rumbler, not to mention that the rumbler units are the size of a car alarm speaker. You go and try to put 7kW of electricity through a speaker and see what happens.

I&#039;d say it is not a radar type of system, because it would have no purpose on the road. There are active radar jammers (Phantom RCD) and a radar jammer is not a camera, it sends out a frequency.

That leaves the FLIR theory. This is possible, but why? Large military spec LWIR cameras may need to be cooled. Not all of them need it. The need for cooling and the design of the unit could be a LWIR. However, the need for a military spec LWIR doesn&#039;t make any sense for these reasons:
1. There already is a LWIR system designed for vehicles. It however doesn&#039;t need to be cooled, isn&#039;t a large bulky object, and has a spectrum range of 8 to 14 micrometers. http://www.atncorp.com/flirsystem-thermalimager-flirpathfindir-ntsc.
Why redesign the wheel? This is used by LE, so it should be plenty for a rally car. 
2. Military LWIR FLIR systems are designed to give high resolution video to the controller. This video is then displayed on a computer monitor or projected onto a screen. When projected onto a screen, the high resolution of these cameras allow for the viewer to be able to recognize what they are looking at. 
3. In order for a military spec LWIR FLIR system to be of any real value to a rally car, the video would need to be either on a laptop or projected onto the windshield. The laptop, although hooked up to the device, would be a bad idea for the driver. In order for a FLIR thermal imaging system to help a driver, the driver has to be able to see it in front of him, in his line of vision while driving. The laptop therefore would have to be on the dash while driving. The only place a laptop could rest safely on the dash is in the middle of the dash. While this does allow for the driver to be able to view the Njection, Google Earth, etc and the thermal image software, it would be distracting. If you are counting on a thermal image to help you drive over 100 MPH at night, it needs to be in your direct line of sight on the road ahead of you. So a small A/V receiver, not a laptop, is needed or use a HUD method below.

This leaves a heads up display. In order for a FLIR system of that size to be useful, the image being viewed by the driver would need to be rather large. The video would have to be projected by either a state of the art HUD system that can manage the entire windshield (not likely) or a projector hooked up to the laptop would have to be mounted in the rear window so it can project the video onto the whole windshield. I did not notice a projector in the rear windshield.

The most beneficial use of FLIR in a vehicle is to have a small HUD or A/V receiver to display the thermal image video feed. The ATN system does just that. So the use of a military spec LWIR FLIR system that uses 7kW of electricity is just plain stupid if it didn&#039;t take up the whole windshield. I didn&#039;t see anything in that car with the ability of doing that. Not to mention that fancy noise ornament probably cannot handle 7kW without frying. The cooling may help, but in exposed conditions I doubt it would help. For a system of that size to handle 7kW, it would most definitely need be cooled with a cryogenic fluid. The problem is, cryogenic fluids cannot remain cold in an exposed condition. Those green tubes cannot do that outside of a laboratory and in driving conditions. In order to keep a cryogenic substance cold enough to remain a cryogenic substance outside of a lab, the cooling system would take large amounts of energy. Then the FLIR system uses 7kW on top of that? Sorry, no car out there can make enough energy to meet the demands of that system. You could use an amplifier to get 7kW, but that still leaves you with the problem of providing enough energy to run the cooling system. 

So in the end, I&#039;d say it is purely a decoration intended to intimidate. If it does actually work at 7kW and has a cooling system, the creator of that system would already have public with its purpose and how it was implemented in the R8. If it is a FLIR system, the creator is an idiot. He only accomplished redesigning the wheel in a bulker, less efficient form. 

The thing is, the device is titled as a Infrasonic wave pulse generator. In other words, an Infrasonic generator. However, these devices are speakers. I don&#039;t see a speaker anywhere on that device. The use of the device wold have similar results to a LRAD on the road. Do your homework on infrasound testing done by the military:
http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/infrasound.htm
So if it is an infrasonic generator, somehow I cannot conceive of due to a lack of a sub-woofer, the driver is still an idiot. 

Which leads me back to my conclusion that it is an elaborate decoration clogging up the grill. The owner, Andre Betz, either is an idiot for trying to reinvent the wheel when it comes to LWIR FLIR systems for vehicles, doesn&#039;t know what a infrasonic generator is and thinking that it would be a good idea to use it on the road, or has come up with something that hasn&#039;t even been discussed here. Chances are that whatever it could be has already been discussed though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An acoustic weapons system like a LRAD requires a speaker. That is not a speaker, it is  either a radar camera or a IR camera. Also, the driver would be incredibly stupid to use a LRAD type of system on the road in the first place. The LRAD irritates people enough to cause them to fall down, drop anything they are holding, and have temporary vision problems. On the road, that could result in an accident, as you cannot rely on the other drivers to pull over. The driver could end up letting go of the wheel. The fact that the system is not a speaker also debunks the theory of it being a rumbler, not to mention that the rumbler units are the size of a car alarm speaker. You go and try to put 7kW of electricity through a speaker and see what happens.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it is not a radar type of system, because it would have no purpose on the road. There are active radar jammers (Phantom RCD) and a radar jammer is not a camera, it sends out a frequency.</p>
<p>That leaves the FLIR theory. This is possible, but why? Large military spec LWIR cameras may need to be cooled. Not all of them need it. The need for cooling and the design of the unit could be a LWIR. However, the need for a military spec LWIR doesn&#8217;t make any sense for these reasons:<br />
1. There already is a LWIR system designed for vehicles. It however doesn&#8217;t need to be cooled, isn&#8217;t a large bulky object, and has a spectrum range of 8 to 14 micrometers. <a href="http://www.atncorp.com/flirsystem-thermalimager-flirpathfindir-ntsc" rel="nofollow">http://www.atncorp.com/flirsystem-thermalimager-flirpathfindir-ntsc</a>.<br />
Why redesign the wheel? This is used by LE, so it should be plenty for a rally car.<br />
2. Military LWIR FLIR systems are designed to give high resolution video to the controller. This video is then displayed on a computer monitor or projected onto a screen. When projected onto a screen, the high resolution of these cameras allow for the viewer to be able to recognize what they are looking at.<br />
3. In order for a military spec LWIR FLIR system to be of any real value to a rally car, the video would need to be either on a laptop or projected onto the windshield. The laptop, although hooked up to the device, would be a bad idea for the driver. In order for a FLIR thermal imaging system to help a driver, the driver has to be able to see it in front of him, in his line of vision while driving. The laptop therefore would have to be on the dash while driving. The only place a laptop could rest safely on the dash is in the middle of the dash. While this does allow for the driver to be able to view the Njection, Google Earth, etc and the thermal image software, it would be distracting. If you are counting on a thermal image to help you drive over 100 MPH at night, it needs to be in your direct line of sight on the road ahead of you. So a small A/V receiver, not a laptop, is needed or use a HUD method below.</p>
<p>This leaves a heads up display. In order for a FLIR system of that size to be useful, the image being viewed by the driver would need to be rather large. The video would have to be projected by either a state of the art HUD system that can manage the entire windshield (not likely) or a projector hooked up to the laptop would have to be mounted in the rear window so it can project the video onto the whole windshield. I did not notice a projector in the rear windshield.</p>
<p>The most beneficial use of FLIR in a vehicle is to have a small HUD or A/V receiver to display the thermal image video feed. The ATN system does just that. So the use of a military spec LWIR FLIR system that uses 7kW of electricity is just plain stupid if it didn&#8217;t take up the whole windshield. I didn&#8217;t see anything in that car with the ability of doing that. Not to mention that fancy noise ornament probably cannot handle 7kW without frying. The cooling may help, but in exposed conditions I doubt it would help. For a system of that size to handle 7kW, it would most definitely need be cooled with a cryogenic fluid. The problem is, cryogenic fluids cannot remain cold in an exposed condition. Those green tubes cannot do that outside of a laboratory and in driving conditions. In order to keep a cryogenic substance cold enough to remain a cryogenic substance outside of a lab, the cooling system would take large amounts of energy. Then the FLIR system uses 7kW on top of that? Sorry, no car out there can make enough energy to meet the demands of that system. You could use an amplifier to get 7kW, but that still leaves you with the problem of providing enough energy to run the cooling system. </p>
<p>So in the end, I&#8217;d say it is purely a decoration intended to intimidate. If it does actually work at 7kW and has a cooling system, the creator of that system would already have public with its purpose and how it was implemented in the R8. If it is a FLIR system, the creator is an idiot. He only accomplished redesigning the wheel in a bulker, less efficient form. </p>
<p>The thing is, the device is titled as a Infrasonic wave pulse generator. In other words, an Infrasonic generator. However, these devices are speakers. I don&#8217;t see a speaker anywhere on that device. The use of the device wold have similar results to a LRAD on the road. Do your homework on infrasound testing done by the military:<br />
<a href="http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/infrasound.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/infrasound.htm</a><br />
So if it is an infrasonic generator, somehow I cannot conceive of due to a lack of a sub-woofer, the driver is still an idiot. </p>
<p>Which leads me back to my conclusion that it is an elaborate decoration clogging up the grill. The owner, Andre Betz, either is an idiot for trying to reinvent the wheel when it comes to LWIR FLIR systems for vehicles, doesn&#8217;t know what a infrasonic generator is and thinking that it would be a good idea to use it on the road, or has come up with something that hasn&#8217;t even been discussed here. Chances are that whatever it could be has already been discussed though.</p>
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		<title>By: wwav10</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwav10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks to me is just a power inverter to power-up all the in vehicle electronic gizmo. As getaneducation stated correctly, the size is too small to be a 7K watt infrasonic transmitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks to me is just a power inverter to power-up all the in vehicle electronic gizmo. As getaneducation stated correctly, the size is too small to be a 7K watt infrasonic transmitter.</p>
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		<title>By: xul</title>
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		<dc:creator>xul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McLen&#039;s idea about the Rumbler looked plausible, but 7000 watts? The police versions only use 100, 200 watts. Talk about overkill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McLen&#8217;s idea about the Rumbler looked plausible, but 7000 watts? The police versions only use 100, 200 watts. Talk about overkill.</p>
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