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Nissan GT-R Replacement Drops in 2013

Posted in auto industry, Car Tech, Exotic Cars, Expensive Cars, Fast Cars, Favorite Cars, Foreign Cars, New Cars, Newsworthy, Nissan, Nissan GT-R, Sports Cars, Supercars by Alex Kierstein | October 5th, 2009 | 22 Responses |

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For fans of working-class superhero sportscars like the all-conquering Nissan GT-R, you can rest assured that Nissan isn’t going to rest on its laurels or let the current recession kill their plans to replace the current R35 model. They’re already hard at work on the next model, the R36, according to Nissan’s VP of global product planning Andy Palmer. They’re pegging the product cycle’s length to that of it’s arch-nemesis (on the ‘Ring, at least), the Porsche 911.

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Since the two sports cars have been swapping insults and Nurburgring lap time claims, it makes sense that Nissan wants to have a new Godzilla laying in wait to ambush the next 911. However, don’t expect a totally clean-slate redesign – it’ll be an “evolution” of the current platform, retaining the drivetrain setup. Fans of the VR38DETT, the AWD, and that trick rear-transaxle setup shouldn’t be thrilled. Therefore, look for incremental changes as the Nissan engineers tweak and prod the GT-R into ever greater levels of performance. That’s a sensible investment.

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  1. The GTR might be termed a supercar for the Average Working Stiff – if such a thing existed. It’s a truely spectacular vehicle; where the mix between machine and computer blurs to such an extent, it’s akin to a video game come to life.

    Mr. Katayama, recently turned 100, must be proud that Nissan got to the point where it sent such a machine to the States; so too, likely is the industrial designer Peter Brock. Can you imagine what a BRE (Brock Racing Enterprises) GTR could do in SCCA?

    But for Carlos Ghosn, it has always been about markets. The market for the LEAF is – potentially – mucho bigger than that for the GTR.

    Probably the only people happy to hear that the GTR is being eliminated are those who collect special interest cars or those retail same. The rest of us just remain wistful over another automotive dream hitting the hard reality of a new day.

  2. Alex Kierstein says:

    @ Terry: The GT-R isn’t being eliminated, it’s just being reworked for 2013. Same engine, same drivetrain, more power. So fear not!

  3. I needed to read a bit more than the head of the piece, Alex. I saw the word “dropped” and ran with it.

    Still tend to feel that the market for the LEAF is bigger. But then, that’s admittedly fairly obvious.

    I wonder who will buy the tweaked GT-R. Ferrari and Lambo buyers usually don’t seem to shop other marques. Maybe Nissan can get some conquest sales from people trading in Audi R8s? Not that the R8 seems to have a thing out of place. But for some people, it’s akin to having a new girlfriend; forgive me the sexist analogy.

  4. James says:

    another car I can only dream of

  5. unparalled60 says:

    Well it’s a good thing that the reinvented GT-R will have a better performance because the 911 will surely take its action. But still i would go for the nissan rathen than its competitor.

  6. lew azzinaro says:

    i don’t know what to believe with this car,…i’ve heard too that nissan is dropping it ’cause of dissapointing sales….and then it has the launch-control issue, where if you use it like nissan did to get it’s remarkable 0-60 times,…it fries the tranny,…so i’ve heard their doing away with that,…i personally think this car is in a losing battle with it’s arch-nemesis, the porsche 911,…and they picked the wrong fight…witness the 2010 911 turbo,…which k-o’s the gtr in 0-60 times,…didn’t think porsche would sit still and let what they consider some japanese piece of techno-shit steal their thunder,…and it would seem nissan has given up the fight,…maybe i’ll be proven wrong?…could be,…but a nissan dealer told me when i went to look at the gtr that sales haven’t been what they hoped,…and it CERTAINLY did NOT pull porsche owners away from their beloved 911’s…we’ll see

  7. Savant-Noir says:

    I am a current Porsche owner and I have decided I want the GT-R as my next car. In fact, I went to the dealership today and was awaiting their return call (on payoff for my Porsche) when I came across articles talking about the 2013 change.

    Now I am upset. I don’t want to buy a car whose body style is obselete in 1.5 years. grrrrrrrrrrr.

    In any event, this is in response to the poster that said it is hard to get Ferrari, Porsche, and Lambo buyers into other markets. It IS true that you could probably not get any of us into American muscle (and American lack of refinement), but the GT-R is as refined a machine as the Porsche. It truly is an engineering marvel, and if one were not brand-snobbish, they’d have to admit it.

  8. lew azzinaro says:

    dear savant-noir,…never,…and i repeat NEVER!…would i give up my 911 now for the gtr,…trust me, my friend,…everything i’ve heard,…and i am very well connected to the whispers that circulate about cars and such,…tells me that nissan WILL do away with this car soon,…ot has been a sales dissapointment to them,…as i stated earlier,…nissans problem is that the rich sob’s who can afford the gtr WON’T buy it ’cause it doesn’t have the motorsports heritage and badge appeal they crave[ie porsche,…ferrari, and such],…and all the young shits who love the car CAN’T afford it,..leaving nissan with the dillema of basically crappy sales,…notwithstanding the fact that porsche certainly didn’t stand still and let the gtr walk all over them,…their 911 turbo shits all over the gtr,…and NO PROBLEM with their pdk,…like some snide gtr lovers were hoping,…[sorry gtr fan-bois,…porsche TESTS THE SHIT out of their products BEFORE they place them in their cars],…you would have to be out of your mind to go with a gtr now,…take it from me,…my wife and i went to look at one,…and the dealers basically said …”why would you want to trade in your beautiful 2008 carrera s for this turd”? in so many words,…plus we couldn’t test drive the f-n car,…in retro-spect,…I AM SO GLAD I LISTENED TO MY WIFE!…who didn’t want to get rid of our 911 to begin wirh! GOD BLESS HER!

  9. Anthony says:

    if nissan axes the GT-R. it will be a dumb move. because its an everyday and practical super car,its got bullet proof reliability and its within Porsche and possibly Lamborghini gallardo territory.

  10. Andrew says:

    lew azzinaro….Sorry but you are a dumbass, not even a snob just a dumbass. You talk up the Porsche specifically the one that shits on the GTR (there is not currently a Porsche turbo that as you put it SHITS on a GTR). Secondly your carrara s IS in fact a piece of junk compared to a GTR. YOUR car can not keep up with a GTR your car is not even better looking then a GTR. Your car is just a fancy looking beetle with no guts. What does your specific Porsche do better than a Nissan GTR? Answer is easy like i said earlier NOTHING. Porsche’s are so common you cant spit 10 yards in any dirrection without hitting one. It is not because they are just that popular blah blah blah. You want a non-turbo Porsche you can sling shit from about GTR buy a GT3 hell even Cayman S is better than your 911 with no balls. Real Porsche enthusiasts who own you know the good Porsche you know the ones with turbos on them. know full well that their car is compared to a GTR and for the most part respect. Something you sorely lack. You really sound like the person who is making up owning a Porsche that you figured someone one here would not know that Cararra S is a pile compared to a GTR. OR you are a struggling loser who bought a Carrera S and could not buy the GTR. Dealer probably did not want the junk probably has high mileage. My whole point is that YOUR 911 is immensely inferior to a GTR so you talking crap has no validity. Also being that it is not a high production car to begin with dealers get very limited amount they wont stop making it anytime soon. The market is there that wants the car even if it were made to eb cheaper and less performance than it is at now. Obviously should be apparent with what people will do to even inport a R33,R34 hell even a older R32. Every car manufacture has that car that may be a money loss or break even or small gain but they keep it because of what it stands for. The peak of said companies technology. Hopes of Nissan customers who think maybe some of the tech in the GTR will be passed down to others in the line of cars. But the fact remains the GTR is the Nissan flagship and I do not believe they are anywhere near read to pull that flag down, if anything they will ramp things up a notch and hoist the colors so to speak.

  11. lew azzinaro says:

    hey anthony,…sounds like i struck a nerve, eh? you’re obviuosly a little nissan fan boi,…probanly 13 yrs. old,…so i won’t hold it against you,…but seriuosly,…nissan sells 85 gtr’s nationwide in a GGD month,…whereas the 911 sells 500 or more,…even in this shitty economy,..me thinks the marketplace has spokjen, young man,…

  12. lew azzinaro says:

    by the way anthony,…if you are actually following your be-loved gtr,…you do actually know that that current 2010 911 turbo does actually shit all over the gtr,…0-60 in 3 secs. flat,…and the turbo s is rumuored to do it in 2.8 secs,…granted,…the gtr is a techno tour de force,…and a performence bargain by comparisen to the turbo,…but really,…at least try and keep up with the current models,…wouldn’t be surprised if the gtr comes out swinging next time against the turbo,…but i’m hearing that it has been a sales disaster for nissan,…sells 85 a month here in the states versus 500 for the 911,…marketplace has spoken anthony,..and people who actually have the money ARE NOT buying yout gtr!

  13. Anonymous1 says:

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    • Kurt says:

      Anonymous, tell us how you really feel. Don’t hold back, your therapist says it isn’t good for your anger management issues.

  14. normz_24 says:

    BTW Nissan GTR is a much crave supercar. Never mind the sales, rareness means extraordinary.

  15. normz_24 says:

    or may i say rareness means LUST. :-)

  16. porsche guy says:

    I do not understand why people are always arguing and comparing the GTR to 911s. They BOTH are amazing cars! I have owned and driven some of the best sports cars, 2006 BMW M6, 2008 911 GT3, and 2010 Nissan GTR. In terms of performance, therer’s no doubt that GTR is best among the 3. I took all 3 cars to the same track and got the best lap time with the GTR hands down! But in terms of “thrill” factor, porche GT3 is the winner even though it is outperformed by GTR. In terms of everyday driving comfort, M6 wins, but it is worst car to take to the track, granted it is not a real supercar like the rest but rather a luxury coup. If i have to pick one car out of all that I can drive daily and still take it to track once in a while, no doubt I will pick GTR. It is simply the best all purpose car in the world bar none, which was the main goal for Nissan! We have to respect Nissan for this accomplishment where no one could have done before. In addition, they did it at an unbelievable cheaper price! Dollar for dollar it is simply the BEST sportscar in the world bar none! Can’t wait to get my hands on a GTR v spec, or 911GT2RS. I still love porches don’t get me wrong. If you wanna talk about shitty sportscar that are garbage, why not talk about Aston Martins or Maserati. Now those are truly crappy cars that cost way too much money!

  17. lew azzinaro says:

    hey kurt,…had to laff when i saw your e-mail,…even i, who do think nissan bit off more than they could chew when they took on the porsche 911 turbo,…wouldn’t be THAT harsh on nissan,…the gtr is afterall, a performance bargain,…and I wouldn’t kick it out off bed in my supposed stable of supercars,…anonymous must have REALLY had a problem with nissan,..anthony i’m sure is a little 13 yr. old nissan fan-boi,…i’m a 58 year old geezer shit,…but i do know my cars,…and while he is right that the gtr will kill my 2008 carrera s coupe,..[with a MAN-PEDDLE by the way,…none of this f-n pdk bullcrap for me],…he is flat out wrong about the new 2010-11 tutbo,..every car mag. i’ve read is in love with it,…and it does seriuosly shit all over the gtr!

  18. taylor says:

    the gtr is no where as exspensive as a porsche 911 turbo …you get what your pay for and the gtr is the fastest thing out there for the money….lew you cannot spell and the carrera s does suck

  19. lew azzinaro says:

    hey taylor,…struck a nerve with you too, huh?,…sad to have to report to you that your beloved gtr is now down to selling 46 cars a month my friend,…46!…they ain’t long for this world with numbers like that!,…oh right,…everyone’s waiting for the new one, right!?,..dream on,..the buying public has spoken on this car,..and they ain’t buying it,PERIOD!,..now,..granted my carrera s is a slow poke compared to the gtr,…but the 911 turbo and turbo s SHIT ALL OVER YOUR BELOVED GTR!,…and i seriously doubt we’ll see a run of what?,…going on 47 years now for the 911, for the gtr,..face the facts dillrod,…your car is a LOSER!,..and i’d be floored if it is produced much longer, not with numbers like that,…don’t trust my numbers?,…got it right off nagtrop or whatever your fan-boi site for the gtr is!,…check it out and cry,…even those fan-bois are weeping,…now granted,..i am a porsche fan-boi,…but why do you think the gtr targeted the 911 in the first place ass-wipe?,…because they thought they could de-crown it’s acknowledged status as THE bench-mark sports-car!,…and they have lost now,…so move on!

  20. lew azzinaro says:

    i will try to be as civil as possible here taylor,…as i have discerned that i am usually talking to a 13 year old nissan fan-boi when i respond to these postings,…okay,..here we go,…taylor and all gtr lovers,…i’m NOT saying that the gtr isn’t a performance bargain,..IT IS!,…IT’S ALSO MAGNIFICENT FOR WHAT IT DOES,…IT’S A PIECE OF TECHNOLOGICAL WONDER!,… however, nissan made a fatal miss-calculation when they took on porsche,…mainly,…that they would pull porsche-philes away from their 911’s,…sorry to report that that hasn’t happened,…as a matter of fact,…and this is according to your fan-boi site nagtrop or some such,…the gtr is now down to selling 46 cars a month,..46!,…that’s very pathetic taylor,…i think you’d have to agree,…and if you think they’re all waiting for the NEW one,…please feel free to dream on!,…not going to happen,…the reason for these pathetic sales numbers are varied,…but, from personal experience,…when you take a 58 year old geezer like me,..who already has a 911 carrera s,..and WAS very interested in seeing what all the hype was about with the gtr,…and then,…after loving what we saw,…and THEN TO BE TOLD YOU CAN’T TEST DRIVE THE CAR?,..i mean,…that’s NOT a sound marketing strategy,…it will ALWAYS,…I MEAN ALWAYS! leave a sour taste in one’s mouth!,…so that,…plus i think they just bit off more then they could chew,..porsche certainly wasn’t going to allow their crown jewel,..the turbo and turbo s, to be shit upon by the much cheaper gtr,..so they have come back swinging with performance numbers that crap all over the gtr,…granted at a much higher price!,…plain and simple,…what you have is a very limited amount of people who can afford these cars,…and when they do,..they want some heritage and prestige along with the money spent,…i.e., not a nissan,…and the young ones who love this car so much can’t afford it!,…so nissan’s in a real dillema?,…it however, would help if they’d get over themselves, and let you at least test drive the thing,…we even offered to LET THEM DRIVE, and we’d be passengers, so we could get a feel for the ride,…etc.,…no dice,…it’s a DISATROUS sales policy!,…that’s my take,…hope it sort of explains where i’m coming from to all you gtr guys…

  21. Vinni says:

    @lew could no agree more with you, Nissan clearly out of nowhere comes out with a Porsche turbo killer with no warning but truly it’s easy to get on top with out warning and secretly studying the target for years, but very hard to stay on top as the 2010 turbo s clearly out perform the GTR even the 2012 egoist version 0-60 time road and track just tested the turbo s and gat a 2.6 second to 60 in fact everyone is talking about how the turbo s as been putting consistent 0-60 time that is as fast as a VEYRON now that’s a real bargain.