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		<title>By: Did Cash for Clunkers Crush Classics? Not Likely. &#124; BNET Auto Blog &#124; BNET</title>
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		<dc:creator>Did Cash for Clunkers Crush Classics? Not Likely. &#124; BNET Auto Blog &#124; BNET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] where six auctions brought in nearly $100 million. But according to the Wall Street Journal, the pinch is definitely being felt, and some car values have dropped by a third “as sellers come down in price to meet a shrinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] where six auctions brought in nearly $100 million. But according to the Wall Street Journal, the pinch is definitely being felt, and some car values have dropped by a third “as sellers come down in price to meet a shrinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yarp</title>
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		<dc:creator>yarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>euros??? you must be joking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>euros??? you must be joking.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s become a supply and demand hobby/business. There is no demand,but there is a great supply. Owners in the $30,000 range are practically dumping their vehicles to get cash. I saw this happen in 1981-83.  It happened in 1988 but this is going to be a world wide depression for 8-10 years. Wall Street is afraid of Obama so they&#039;re moving assest and cash out of the country till he&#039;s gone. Because of the global economy this is much easier to do than 25 years ago. Wake up! In Oct 2007 the dow was 14,000, now it&#039;s 6,600. This is going to be a long DEPRESSION. I&#039;m telling my clients to dump the collector cars and buy gold and euros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s become a supply and demand hobby/business. There is no demand,but there is a great supply. Owners in the $30,000 range are practically dumping their vehicles to get cash. I saw this happen in 1981-83.  It happened in 1988 but this is going to be a world wide depression for 8-10 years. Wall Street is afraid of Obama so they&#8217;re moving assest and cash out of the country till he&#8217;s gone. Because of the global economy this is much easier to do than 25 years ago. Wake up! In Oct 2007 the dow was 14,000, now it&#8217;s 6,600. This is going to be a long DEPRESSION. I&#8217;m telling my clients to dump the collector cars and buy gold and euros.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parkhurst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Parkhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 1963 Pontiac Tempest LeMans two door hardtop, one of just six Super Duty coupes ever made, sold for $226,521.63 on November 9 on eBay. 

The Super Duty coupes were built for quarter-mile racing, what is now usually called &quot;bracket racing.&quot; They had plexiglass windows, heavy duty suspension to keep the rear wheels from too much wheel hopping and 389 cubic-inch V8s, some bored 0.30 over, so rumor goes. 

The one that sold most recently had just 3,1165 miles on the odometer and was bought by someone from someone who obviously didn&#039;t know what the car&#039;s providence was. In fact, with the faded paint and generally appearance of the car being what it was, bidding started at just $500 on November first. At one point in the auction, the seller actually turned down $160,000 - after being asked some questions about the windows and such, when interested and savvy bidders began to see, via the photos, exactly what this car was about. 

With just 7 minutes before the end of the auction, and bidding stalled at $95,000, bidding frenzy took over as one bidder got in the fray with another and it ended at the $226,521.00 mentioned. 

Now this is not typical eBay stuff. In fact, eBay is not a particularly good place to gauge the market. People looking at eBay these days are looking for bargains. They probably don&#039;t have a lot of money; maybe they still have decent credit. But the people bidding there, aren&#039;t the same folks you&#039;d see at Barrett-Jackson, or even a regionl auction in a backwater such as Puyallup, Washington - where Silver Auctions held collector car auctions from 1989 through 2007, in conjunction with the Corvette and High Performance Swap Meet. 

Yes, the collector car market is slowly adjusting. Fake &quot;Road-Runners&quot; or GTOs or &quot;Shelby-Mustang&quot; recreations - called &quot;tribute cars&quot; most recently, to sound better than &quot;fake&quot; - were hitting $75,000 to $80,000, three years ago, or even two years ago. That&#039;s going to change, because the people buying them, might be the same people now working for a new deal on their mortgage. 

But cars such as that Super Duty coupe will probably stay strong in value, at least through spring. By then, we&#039;ll know if all this &quot;bailout&quot; money the Federal Treasury is throwing around does enough to keep money throwing through the system in something other than T-bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 1963 Pontiac Tempest LeMans two door hardtop, one of just six Super Duty coupes ever made, sold for $226,521.63 on November 9 on eBay. </p>
<p>The Super Duty coupes were built for quarter-mile racing, what is now usually called &#8220;bracket racing.&#8221; They had plexiglass windows, heavy duty suspension to keep the rear wheels from too much wheel hopping and 389 cubic-inch V8s, some bored 0.30 over, so rumor goes. </p>
<p>The one that sold most recently had just 3,1165 miles on the odometer and was bought by someone from someone who obviously didn&#8217;t know what the car&#8217;s providence was. In fact, with the faded paint and generally appearance of the car being what it was, bidding started at just $500 on November first. At one point in the auction, the seller actually turned down $160,000 &#8211; after being asked some questions about the windows and such, when interested and savvy bidders began to see, via the photos, exactly what this car was about. </p>
<p>With just 7 minutes before the end of the auction, and bidding stalled at $95,000, bidding frenzy took over as one bidder got in the fray with another and it ended at the $226,521.00 mentioned. </p>
<p>Now this is not typical eBay stuff. In fact, eBay is not a particularly good place to gauge the market. People looking at eBay these days are looking for bargains. They probably don&#8217;t have a lot of money; maybe they still have decent credit. But the people bidding there, aren&#8217;t the same folks you&#8217;d see at Barrett-Jackson, or even a regionl auction in a backwater such as Puyallup, Washington &#8211; where Silver Auctions held collector car auctions from 1989 through 2007, in conjunction with the Corvette and High Performance Swap Meet. </p>
<p>Yes, the collector car market is slowly adjusting. Fake &#8220;Road-Runners&#8221; or GTOs or &#8220;Shelby-Mustang&#8221; recreations &#8211; called &#8220;tribute cars&#8221; most recently, to sound better than &#8220;fake&#8221; &#8211; were hitting $75,000 to $80,000, three years ago, or even two years ago. That&#8217;s going to change, because the people buying them, might be the same people now working for a new deal on their mortgage. </p>
<p>But cars such as that Super Duty coupe will probably stay strong in value, at least through spring. By then, we&#8217;ll know if all this &#8220;bailout&#8221; money the Federal Treasury is throwing around does enough to keep money throwing through the system in something other than T-bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at ebay prices and you will now see classics have dropped in price and the 1/3 value seems accurate to me.   I see some great values out there that made me wish I bought now instead of 2 years ago but what the heck I am not selling anyway just wish I waited is all, patience is key</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at ebay prices and you will now see classics have dropped in price and the 1/3 value seems accurate to me.   I see some great values out there that made me wish I bought now instead of 2 years ago but what the heck I am not selling anyway just wish I waited is all, patience is key</p>
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		<title>By: will bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>will bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark C.
That would be an interesting comparison to see. Barrett-Jackson would probably have those statistics, but will they be willing to share.

Right now the spending slow down is mostly hitting the mid-ranged classics, the $20-30,000 cars. If any economists ever brave the official term of Recession then we might start to see it hit the some-what larger dollar cars.

However, as in any Recession or Depression... there are still those who have money and they will still be more than willing to pay that top dollar for what they want.

Thanks for the comment Mark C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark C.<br />
That would be an interesting comparison to see. Barrett-Jackson would probably have those statistics, but will they be willing to share.</p>
<p>Right now the spending slow down is mostly hitting the mid-ranged classics, the $20-30,000 cars. If any economists ever brave the official term of Recession then we might start to see it hit the some-what larger dollar cars.</p>
<p>However, as in any Recession or Depression&#8230; there are still those who have money and they will still be more than willing to pay that top dollar for what they want.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment Mark C.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on the money (pardon the pun!) - I always laugh when I hear the question asked, as a real enthusiast knows that the value is different for every person.  

I don&#039;t know that the prices have really started to fall.  It&#039;d be interesting to track what&#039;s going on at Barrett-Jackson this year vs. last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on the money (pardon the pun!) &#8211; I always laugh when I hear the question asked, as a real enthusiast knows that the value is different for every person.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that the prices have really started to fall.  It&#8217;d be interesting to track what&#8217;s going on at Barrett-Jackson this year vs. last year.</p>
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