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	<title>Comments on: 2011 Jaguar XJ Spy Shots Revealed, Sir William Lyons Turns In His Grave</title>
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		<title>By: Pete Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s poor form to make comments about the likes of Sir William Lyons when you evidently know nothing of the history of Jaguar. If he were alive today - a little difficult as he would be 109 admittedly - Billy Lyons would have most likely conjured up something incredibly different, faintly Italian and a little more overtly American in style (he knew how important his main market was), but most importantly something that owed virtually nothing to the wasted chances of the XJ40, X300 and X358 iterations.  

On a Jaguar, the leaping cat points forward to the future, not back into the past.  Sir Ian Callum realised this and drew the new XJ, whilst retaining several obvious brand cues, such as the large, agressive grille, strong flanks and tight wrapping around the wheels to give the style a very real and seductive movement.  This article only highlights your low ability as a know-nothing webhack, and the blinkered ramblings of backward old farts like certain posters on this board illustrates the very problem Jaguar has had to contend with for the last 42 years; to shake off the malaise brought on by timid management and customers afraid of change.  The former has thankfully now been thrown out.  The latter will soon be in their Honda Civics buying soft foods and surgical stockings.  And that day will not come too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s poor form to make comments about the likes of Sir William Lyons when you evidently know nothing of the history of Jaguar. If he were alive today &#8211; a little difficult as he would be 109 admittedly &#8211; Billy Lyons would have most likely conjured up something incredibly different, faintly Italian and a little more overtly American in style (he knew how important his main market was), but most importantly something that owed virtually nothing to the wasted chances of the XJ40, X300 and X358 iterations.  </p>
<p>On a Jaguar, the leaping cat points forward to the future, not back into the past.  Sir Ian Callum realised this and drew the new XJ, whilst retaining several obvious brand cues, such as the large, agressive grille, strong flanks and tight wrapping around the wheels to give the style a very real and seductive movement.  This article only highlights your low ability as a know-nothing webhack, and the blinkered ramblings of backward old farts like certain posters on this board illustrates the very problem Jaguar has had to contend with for the last 42 years; to shake off the malaise brought on by timid management and customers afraid of change.  The former has thankfully now been thrown out.  The latter will soon be in their Honda Civics buying soft foods and surgical stockings.  And that day will not come too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Thetix</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Thetix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could see the stylists at Jaguar were losing it when the XK was unveiled.  But with the XF and XJ they&#039;ve completely abandoned any and all design elements which even suggest &quot;Jaguar.&quot;  If you can&#039;t draw something which is bold and modern while still exhibiting some continuity with Jaguar&#039;s most classic styling cues, then go back to school.  The newest Aston Martins, for example, are bold and modern but they still look like Astons.  I bought my XK8 because, styling-wise, it was a bold and modern reinterpretation of E-Type themes.  I will NOT be buying another Jaguar unless or until the stylists realize what has made almost all Jaguars (OK, maybe not the XJS) both distinctive and beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see the stylists at Jaguar were losing it when the XK was unveiled.  But with the XF and XJ they&#8217;ve completely abandoned any and all design elements which even suggest &#8220;Jaguar.&#8221;  If you can&#8217;t draw something which is bold and modern while still exhibiting some continuity with Jaguar&#8217;s most classic styling cues, then go back to school.  The newest Aston Martins, for example, are bold and modern but they still look like Astons.  I bought my XK8 because, styling-wise, it was a bold and modern reinterpretation of E-Type themes.  I will NOT be buying another Jaguar unless or until the stylists realize what has made almost all Jaguars (OK, maybe not the XJS) both distinctive and beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 05:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last decent looking Jaguars were the X300/X305 and the X100 (XK8). These models hearkened back to classic designs, while bringing modern performangce and reliability t the table. Their subsequent offerings have quickly descended into bland, chunky, wedge-shaped abominations, reaching an all time peak of unsightliness with this new &#039;XJ&#039;. Why keep using the Jaguar name when there is no longer a trace of Jaguar design left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last decent looking Jaguars were the X300/X305 and the X100 (XK8). These models hearkened back to classic designs, while bringing modern performangce and reliability t the table. Their subsequent offerings have quickly descended into bland, chunky, wedge-shaped abominations, reaching an all time peak of unsightliness with this new &#8216;XJ&#8217;. Why keep using the Jaguar name when there is no longer a trace of Jaguar design left?</p>
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		<title>By: murfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>murfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 05:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve owned nothing but XJ&#039;s or XJR&#039;s up to year 2000.  The reason in simple: elegant simplicity that challenged clonish Japanese or Teutonic notions of automotive design.  Whoever gave Ian McCallum the notion he could design his way out of a paper sack?  The new Jaguar is an embarrassment, a hermaphrodite design that will sink the Mark forever and consign the rest of us to a slobbering, boozing commiseration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve owned nothing but XJ&#8217;s or XJR&#8217;s up to year 2000.  The reason in simple: elegant simplicity that challenged clonish Japanese or Teutonic notions of automotive design.  Whoever gave Ian McCallum the notion he could design his way out of a paper sack?  The new Jaguar is an embarrassment, a hermaphrodite design that will sink the Mark forever and consign the rest of us to a slobbering, boozing commiseration.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This new Jaguar is exceptional the rear reminds me of the Bently which show class and the nose is the most exciting look I&#039;ve seen yet on a new make and design. Please, oh please produce the vehicle I promise you that you guys hit this one out the park. I own an S-Type and she my dream. After seeing this new Xj Im in love al over again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This new Jaguar is exceptional the rear reminds me of the Bently which show class and the nose is the most exciting look I&#8217;ve seen yet on a new make and design. Please, oh please produce the vehicle I promise you that you guys hit this one out the park. I own an S-Type and she my dream. After seeing this new Xj Im in love al over again</p>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rear is the ugliest I have ever seen. There is one picture - not on this site -  that really shows it in all it&#039;s square hideousness with, seemingly, two lights stuck on the corners of a brick.  Go in a new direction, by all means, but retain grace and proportion - can no-one at Jaguar design tell when something is ugly? I was looking forward to the new model, believing it would be a modern interpretation of the flowing, pouncing feline shape. Oh dear. I will not be buying one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rear is the ugliest I have ever seen. There is one picture &#8211; not on this site &#8211;  that really shows it in all it&#8217;s square hideousness with, seemingly, two lights stuck on the corners of a brick.  Go in a new direction, by all means, but retain grace and proportion &#8211; can no-one at Jaguar design tell when something is ugly? I was looking forward to the new model, believing it would be a modern interpretation of the flowing, pouncing feline shape. Oh dear. I will not be buying one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jag Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jag Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rear looks like crap compared to the old one and i even think the XF looks better . The car looks ok untill you get to the c pillar where it starts to look like a Audi A6 and the rear looks like a Lancia . I love Jaguars so much but sadly this model is to much for me , i will look at it as it comes out but i won`t but it i think . Just imagine if Status Quo should start play rap music all over sudden ? None of their fans would have liked that and i am afriad Jaguar has done the same mistake whit this new so called XJ . It´s probably lovlely to drive and ride in but as whit the Porsche Cayenne it looks like crap sadly , becuase i think it`s a great car otherwise . Just sad they missed out on the rear end . And the Roof line too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rear looks like crap compared to the old one and i even think the XF looks better . The car looks ok untill you get to the c pillar where it starts to look like a Audi A6 and the rear looks like a Lancia . I love Jaguars so much but sadly this model is to much for me , i will look at it as it comes out but i won`t but it i think . Just imagine if Status Quo should start play rap music all over sudden ? None of their fans would have liked that and i am afriad Jaguar has done the same mistake whit this new so called XJ . It´s probably lovlely to drive and ride in but as whit the Porsche Cayenne it looks like crap sadly , becuase i think it`s a great car otherwise . Just sad they missed out on the rear end . And the Roof line too</p>
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		<title>By: Loquence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loquence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with your apparent lack of affection for the current 4-door Bentley Continental, which has a relatively generous passenger-space to gross vehicle volume ratio, sporting the courage of both its visual and functional convictions and, not least, performance to burn. 

Better, or rather, worse visual analogies you might have been looking for might include the hideous, overstated &quot;new&quot; Rolls Royce, if one were to add totally nasty-looking headlamp arrays and utter absence of rear-end awareness. I mean, these vulgar head- and tail-lamps... what on earth were they thinking? Why even build a vehicular thing that commits less than a third of its volume to passenger seating? And how about some windows, so people can actually look outside? For no reason apparent to this writer, these are dark times indeed for car designers if even the luxury class doesn&#039;t seem to know where it&#039;s going.

To its credit, this new Jaguar doesn&#039;t have as many of the redundant passé signature crinkly bits along its body sideline as current Mercedes, BMW or even Lexus offerings, which have disposability written all over them. All in all, however, this generation of Jaguar XJ is only marginally less ugly than it could possibly have been.

The worst part in design terms is, it&#039;s a real let-down to the rest of the Jaguar series which - but for this model - actually seemed to be getting better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your apparent lack of affection for the current 4-door Bentley Continental, which has a relatively generous passenger-space to gross vehicle volume ratio, sporting the courage of both its visual and functional convictions and, not least, performance to burn. </p>
<p>Better, or rather, worse visual analogies you might have been looking for might include the hideous, overstated &#8220;new&#8221; Rolls Royce, if one were to add totally nasty-looking headlamp arrays and utter absence of rear-end awareness. I mean, these vulgar head- and tail-lamps&#8230; what on earth were they thinking? Why even build a vehicular thing that commits less than a third of its volume to passenger seating? And how about some windows, so people can actually look outside? For no reason apparent to this writer, these are dark times indeed for car designers if even the luxury class doesn&#8217;t seem to know where it&#8217;s going.</p>
<p>To its credit, this new Jaguar doesn&#8217;t have as many of the redundant passé signature crinkly bits along its body sideline as current Mercedes, BMW or even Lexus offerings, which have disposability written all over them. All in all, however, this generation of Jaguar XJ is only marginally less ugly than it could possibly have been.</p>
<p>The worst part in design terms is, it&#8217;s a real let-down to the rest of the Jaguar series which &#8211; but for this model &#8211; actually seemed to be getting better.</p>
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		<title>By: EdsXJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdsXJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. I own the latest XJ and love it to bits. Next to the BMWs, Mercs and Audis it looks stunning and not bland and was an emotional purchase. 

The fact it is stuffed full of technology that aids driving and is built from aluminium are just added pleasures. I still find it hard to believe that it can ride so well on potholed roads but be thrown around like a car half its size.....

However, I will give the new car a chance. I will want to drive it and see if it is as cossetting as the current model and see if it has that emotional hook still. We can&#039;t live in the past but I hope Jaguar keep all the good bits that makes me buy a car of beauty and capability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I own the latest XJ and love it to bits. Next to the BMWs, Mercs and Audis it looks stunning and not bland and was an emotional purchase. </p>
<p>The fact it is stuffed full of technology that aids driving and is built from aluminium are just added pleasures. I still find it hard to believe that it can ride so well on potholed roads but be thrown around like a car half its size&#8230;..</p>
<p>However, I will give the new car a chance. I will want to drive it and see if it is as cossetting as the current model and see if it has that emotional hook still. We can&#8217;t live in the past but I hope Jaguar keep all the good bits that makes me buy a car of beauty and capability.</p>
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		<title>By: Taboka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taboka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say stay traditional. I dislike the idea of the &quot;change&quot; but I have to agree Ford took the Volvo and Jaguars and merely made then into high end Tauruses. I am not against change all together but I think that jaguar was made popular by what it already is and was. I do think that in order to compete though, Jaguar must make vehicles that are synonymous with it&#039;s heritage in terms of style however it must also make them more affordable to the younger age groups who are in the well to do. BMW and Mercedes have cars that are priced in the $30 000 range whilst Jaguars starts n the mid to high $40 000s this is well out of reach of the new luxury car buyers who are aged between 25 and 40. The idea that one must be an old man nearing retirement age in order to own a Jag is one that will keep potential buyers from ever considering it an option. I am sure there a many BMW 3 series, Audi A4 and Mercedes Benz C class drivers out there who wish they could put a Jaguar on the list of options when they go out for a test drive but why bother if the thing is at least $20 000 out of your league. Make them smaller but also within reach of that demographic and you won&#039;t have to remove what has built the brand to make it successful. Still love you Jaguar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say stay traditional. I dislike the idea of the &#8220;change&#8221; but I have to agree Ford took the Volvo and Jaguars and merely made then into high end Tauruses. I am not against change all together but I think that jaguar was made popular by what it already is and was. I do think that in order to compete though, Jaguar must make vehicles that are synonymous with it&#8217;s heritage in terms of style however it must also make them more affordable to the younger age groups who are in the well to do. BMW and Mercedes have cars that are priced in the $30 000 range whilst Jaguars starts n the mid to high $40 000s this is well out of reach of the new luxury car buyers who are aged between 25 and 40. The idea that one must be an old man nearing retirement age in order to own a Jag is one that will keep potential buyers from ever considering it an option. I am sure there a many BMW 3 series, Audi A4 and Mercedes Benz C class drivers out there who wish they could put a Jaguar on the list of options when they go out for a test drive but why bother if the thing is at least $20 000 out of your league. Make them smaller but also within reach of that demographic and you won&#8217;t have to remove what has built the brand to make it successful. Still love you Jaguar.</p>
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